A Voice for Men vs the Table of Misandry. Also: MAN BOOBZ SLIGHTLY BEFORE CHRISTMAS ART CONTEST
It’s coming for you! RUN!
Those of you who have been waiting with bated breath to hear what the “editors” of our favorite men’s rights hate site, A Voice for Men, think of the Occidental College fiasco can now unbate their breath, as AVFM head boy Paul Elam has stepped forward to explain it all to us in a post that contains quite possibly the most ridiculous two sentences ever written about higher education:
The modern academic climate in the United States can be likened to a table that rests on four legs. Those legs are rape hysteria, demonization of men, fraudulent academic feminism and the continual erosion of due process for men and other Constitutional principles.
Yep, an actual adult human being sat down and typed those sentences out, looked at them and said, yep, that looks good to me, and then posted them on his website.
In honor of these two sentences, I would like to announce the HISTORIC MAN BOOBZ SLIGHTLY BEFORE CHRISTMAS 2013 TABLE OF MISANDRY ART CONTEST.
Your challenge: Draw a picture of that table, and post it in the comments below.
I will post the best pictures, and possibly also the worst, in a followup post.
Nothing else in Elam’s post quite lives up to the GIANT TABLE OF ACADEMIC MISANDRY, but there is some other bullshit worth mentioning.
Elam makes a big point of saying that
AVFM was not engaged in this particular event, nor do we officially endorse what happened. We do not denounce it, either.
The event in question, in case you haven’t been following the controversy, involved a bunch of idiot MRAs and other misogynists from the Men’s Rights subeddit and 4chan flooding Occidental College’s anonymous rape reporting website with false reports of rape in order to break the system; the school ended up having to sort through at least 400 such reports.
After Elam lays out his “official” position of neutrality on the “event” he goes on to say that because Occidental’s rape reporting system sits atop his metaphorical TABLE OF MISANDRY
it not only should be a target, it necessarily will be because a long-due backlash against the processes that put it there is emerging from many corners of society. That backlash is 100% justified. Indeed, that backlash can perhaps be seen as proof that we may have reason to hope for society yet.
Yeah, that kind of, sort of, just a teensy bit, sounds like an endorsement of the false reports.
As did the comment from AVFM “Editor-in-Chief” John “The Other” Hembling the other day, in which he wrote of the MRAs spamming Occidental:
GOOD! Go forward, brothers, and fuck their shit up.
And apparently Hembling took his own words to heart; the teaser for his own post on the subject at AVFM — which can currently be seen at the top of this page — declares that he was one of those who had trolled Occidental with fake reports.
So AVFM doesn’t endorse the false allegations, but it sees the backlash of which it is a part as a sign that there might be hope for humanity after all.
And AVFM didn’t engage in posting false allegations — oh, except for its Editor-in-Chief, whose participation in the trolling AVFM trumpeted on its front page.
Good job, guys.
There’s a lot more bullshit in the post, but it’s the night before the night before Christmas, and I’ve had enough of MRAs for now.
Happy holidays. May yours be MRA-free!
Posted on December 23, 2013, in a voice for men, antifeminism, douchebaggery, drama kings, false accusations, johntheother, lying liars, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, not-quite-plausible deniability, paul elam, rape, rape culture and tagged a voice for men, antifeminism, men's rights, misogyny, MRA, occidental college, rape, rape culture. Bookmark the permalink. 140 Comments.
Seasons greetings, happy thoughts
hope you get gifts and love enough
better tidings, snow and sludge
or some sun, for that daylight touch
I hope you, yes you, find a slice of joy
and perhaps my rhyming ploy
can make you grin at these seasons tidings
measured out in doublet writings
Soon it’ll be a brand new year!
full of screams and tears and cheer!
and there’ll be MRA inanity
and much profanity
(but also remembered humanity
and soothing of all sorts of insanity)
I wish you the best and better still
that fewer people next year
stumble across the red pill!
Kitteh — you don’t owe me a unicorn since you caught yourself quickly. Can we go three more hours? Will my pair of unicorns not get a friend today?
“I find you repugnant and you are anathema to the society our forefathers fought and died for.”
Funny, the only people I’ve ever walked in on in a compromising position were an ROTC dude and his GF. (Guys, your room was 20′ further away, you had to stop at the couch? Block the pizza and your roommate’s room why don’t you?)
Non-Americans — ROTC is basically officer training for college students. Future military in other words.
I like how Elam compares it to the civil rights movement, but then that commenter bashes women for going against their forefathers. Shows what they know about civil rights.
I’m an interior designer. I’ve never attempted to draw a table made of awareness ribbons, so be gentle. Pretty much every color is associated with some gynocentric conspiracy to marginalize men’s issues, save the prostate cancer one (absent here, it is kryptonite to the feminist infrastructure, thus could not hold up the climate of education)
So we have white: violence against women awareness
Indigo: stalking and harassment awareness
Purple: gynecological and gender cancer, lgbt, hate crime awareness
And of course pink! Girly breast cancer awareness, sucking all funds from male cancer causes.
The table top is glass with clouds floating through it (climate of educational system, har har) and you may notice they’re a bit grey, as a storm is brewing….
http://s23.postimg.org/ovincdlu3/image.jpg
I vote for angharad’s submission. Captures it all in a nutshell! Hilarious! Love all the other entries too.
Oh and speaking of the holidays, (TW rape) is anyone else extremely disturbed whenever “baby it’s cold outside” comes on the radio? An Xmas song about daterape - festive!
Well, I’m sure if Dr. King and Mahatma Gandhi were alive today, they’d be spamming some American college’s online anonymous rape reporting system. Yep, that’s exactly what they’d be doing. Those two non-violent civil rights leaders would so totally be down with “fuck their shit up.” Also zombie Oscar Wilde would join in. Then they’d have an anti-misandry rally. It’ll be awesome.
And I can’t decide which Table of Misandry I like the best. They’re all so funny.
And a happy winter holiday season to everyone.
Nitram, holy fuck that song is horrifying. I wish places didn’t to play it anymore. I don’t think they realize that’s it’s about rape though.
Whenever someone says rape has always been treated as a horrific crime and never treated as romantic, I show them that song.
Wouldn’t the racial equivalent of this be spamming a report that lets students(of all races) report hate crimes and racism(from all races)?
So uh … Human furniture is a kink thing. I would contribute but I am terrible at drawing.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_furniture
I know a few uni professors who feel that considering they apparently have so much influence on the world, they’d really like a raise.
Anyway, happy winter season to everyone.
Happy Holidays manboobz!
I’m in too much of a nice, wintery mood to mock MRA bullshit today, but I’m happy to see that they are so useless and up their own butts that they honestly think that this getting anyone to think anything other than “what a bunch of fucking assholes.”
such human rights, much activism. wow.
Biscuit killed the tree.
The furrinati is behind the war on Christmas!
OMG, hellkell. My tree is larger, so it didn’t get knocked over when my baby climbed it (several times), but she managed to knock off damn near every ornament. Thankfully we have carpet so nothing got broken. smh
Bad Biscuit!
Cats do that, though. My old cat managed to knock over a real tree by climbing up the inside and then out onto a branch. Pine needles all over the carpet.
Fox News is right, there is a War on Christmas!
I bet Biscuit and coffeeyum’s baby don’t even properly wish people a Jesus-filled Merry Christmas or inform children how lily white Santa Claus is.
Kitty no like neon tree! Kitty demand green tree!
Kitty voice aside, I’m only sorta kidding. I had a plec that flipped over plastic plants, literally. He’d flip them, they’d float off, I’d get annoyed. I ended up buying self weighted silk plants, plec just would not leave the plastic ones alone. Maybe Biscuit is equally unfond of unnatural colors.
And I can’t pick a favorite table either.
So human furnature is using people as end tables instead of people squeezing into them to show off? Cuz I can fit in most cabinets and love freaking people out that way.
I can’t pick a table for myself, either.
(There are times when it’s fine and dandy to let David think he’s just being himself all alone, without all of us, cats, ferrets, whatever inside that David suit. He made this problem for himself. He can solve it by himself.)
Biscuit left the tree alone for almost two weeks until a couple days ago. Then he got Mr. HK’s Seahawk ornament, then yesterday it was another, now this. Mr. HK almost caught the tree but juuuuuust missed it.
I’ll just put a bunch of lights on it next year-no balls (is that misandry?)-because this is how cats do.
I sent my Dad a stuffed moose ornament for Xmas, still not sure if that’s misandry or not.
Biscuit!!!
Reading Elam’s stuff is like taking a trip to Bizarro World.
So Biscuit knows the kitty Christmas song I saw ten minutes ago -
Wreck the tree and blame the doggies
Fa la la la la la la la la
Where does one get a moose ornament? My father is a bit obsessed with moose (of course, I may suffer Mom Anger Consequences for bringing yet another moose related piece of junk into her house [I'm sure the ornament is lovely, but add it to everything from stickers to a moose skull and the pile becomes junk])
It’s not a moose, but my mother loves putting this up for the holidays.
http://moldybrehd.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/olive2.jpg
No, it’s moosandry.
Bad Biscuit! My fake Christmas tree is hanging from the ceiling and the cats aren’t interested in climbing it. However, they have tried to eat their share of bubble wrap and scotch tape, and Nilla has developed quite the taste for cornstarch packing peanuts.
So most of Christmas dinner is done. I made a veggie chicken and spinach lasagna with an herbed white sauce and a chocolate bourbon pecan pie, and I also made the salad dressing. I have the stuff ready to go for mulled wine too. Tomorrow I just need to bake the lasagna with some potatoes on the side and make a salad.
Here’s my “art” “work”: http://i.imgur.com/9OWjFKi.png
So if tables are the misandriest form of dining furniture, is that why AVfM offers Humanist *Counter* Theory?
Mmm spinach lasagne! Ours was regular (meatless) and eaten earlier, as my mother’ sat work currently, won’t be home until nearly 9. Spinach sounds really good though, too bad my brother would never go for it and it’s bad enough that she already has to make two (neither my brother nor I will eat it with meat, she and my father [in theory, if he touches it] like it with little meatballs)
You try amusing the kitties with wrapping paper? My brother and I are banned from that as our mother got sick of finding shreds everywhere. Kitty had funny though!
Moldybrehd — that is adorable, I could actually probably get my mother not to go all “no more moose stuff!”
Happy holidays to all manboobzers.
Also, here’s my Table of Misandry, I went the political cartoon route:
http://i.imgur.com/iir85rc.png
volt - counter theory, groan!
Moose ornaments.
http://www.crateandbarrel.com/alpaca-chubby-moose-ornaments/f54835
Aren’t they cute? The misandrist penguins are also adorable.
http://www.crateandbarrel.com/menswear-penguin-ornaments/f54814
Way way way OT, but I saw this and thought of all of you.
http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/HappyChristmasAdameveryoneExceptyouYoureunhappy-29791.jpg
feliz nochebuena!
Mwahahahaha. And a happy christmas adam to you all!
I want to make art.
But I have to go to sleep now. I work in 6 hours.
And I have a double tomorrow.
So, when will I have time.
Merry Christmas manboobzers. Santa* gave us the present we had all been wanting - a cool change and gentle rain all day.
*or Huey?
https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos?pid=5961238680083568386&oid=115962883179364101085
festive bunny (if it works)
Merry Christmas (what’s left of it), Magpie!
Hope Huey sends ‘er down here, too. Still going to be hot tomorrow, blech.
Hope you had a good one kittehserf. We were down your way a couple of weeks ago, but we shot through the day it was going to reach 40 degrees.
It was really nice to see the parks green and the fountains running in Melbourne, last time we came it was drought.
You’ve been to Melbourne again? Cool!
This was the quietest Christmas I’ve had in years, in every sense - not even the usual kids with noisy toys playing in the street. We had cold chicken for dinner, ‘cos heating up the house with the oven seemed like a bad idea, and my sister rang from stinkinghotQueensland and we nattered about stuff. I’ve sent her a link to the Stack the Cats game to see if she loses hours of her life playing it like I do. She hasn’t played a video game (outside of Solitare) since Pacman.
How was your Christmas?
A shadow has been cast on my Christmas by the MRAers. Just go to any article about the 3 year old killed by his dad for spite after a divorce, and check the comments section. If anyone needs any more proof that the radical MRA movement is morally in the wrong, and should be scrubbed with disinfectant, look no further. But don’t look if you have a hard time with toxic irrationality.
@scarlettpipstrelle, has it ever occurred to any of these guys that he might have come across as a terrible father? I mean, he murdered his child after. He might have seemed a bit too angry and unstable to the judge, and maybe he had a history of these issues.
This is one of those times MRAs are legitimately terrifying and potentially terrorists, rather than a bunch of dipshits on the internet.
They are mostly trying to claim that a) his wife must’ve been some sort of evil troublemaker, and b) the courts were so nasty to the dad that he just couldn’t help himself. As if his reaction was understandable. I saw one commenter claim that the dad’s homicide was justifiable because it saved the son from suffering as a result of being raised by an evil feminist mother in an evil feminist society. He likened our society to Nazi Germany, claiming that a parent would be correct to kill their children before the Nazis could capture and torture the child.
Merry Christmas/celebration of choice, Manboobzers!
I’ve been scarce lately, with major projects going on. Work, home, the volunteering… all at once, great fun. Now things have eased up a little, so I’m going to get another cat.
Yesssss… moar cats.
I don’t even see how the mother is automatically a feminist. Apparently just being female means you’re so abusive that being killed(not abuse?) is better. And what a serious Human Rights movement there. Murdering humans so they don’t have to be exposed to views someone doesn’t agree with. *pukes*
Also the point of the courts being too mean is just stupid. “I love my kid so much that I just had to throw him off a building!”. It seems like no MRA understands love. It’s just ownership to them. If he can’t have “it” then no one can.
We had some of this in a local case too. The father lost joint custody after hiding the toddler son from his mom for 9 months. Then he burst into her house, tazed her, took his son, and with the help of his misogynistic dad, headed for Canada. When the story broke, the MRAers were out in force, claiming that she must’ve provoked it, was no angel, and that this was an example of unfair divorce laws hurting dads and sons. But in my state, you start out with joint legal custody and free visitation by default - you have to be a problem or cause trouble to lose it. According to the MRAs, dads can never be jerks, it’s always the mom’s fault, whatever the dad does - she caused it.
Hey Howard, good to see you! I’m glad it was only business (busyness?) keeping you away.
I always hear the “women aren’t sweet little angels” from them, and I’ve never understood it. Does a woman have to be an angel to have the right to her child? No, she just has to be a competent(includes non abusive) parent. But apparently when a man does horrifying things to a child, he gets a pass, because he couldn’t handle having his kid taken away.
It’s bizarre how they paint every man as someone who will turn extremely violent when treated equally, and that his violence means there shouldn’t be equality.
After learning about MRAs like this, if I ever see one in real life I will do everything to avoid them. Usually they’re just morons, but occasionally they’re condoning terrorism, murder, and abuse of children and women. It’s best to be safe.
The MRA twisted thinking in these cases is so depressing.
If a man doesn’t want to be a father, he should have the right to force mom to abort, or at least to a “paper abortion”. If he does want to be a father, he should get to be so regardless of his behavior or parenting ability, and mom should just fuck off and leave them alone. Notice how the kid’s needs are never mentioned?
Anyone else want brain bleach? Here’s a TV commercial that ran in central Maine for almost 20 years. When I was a kid, it was as much as Christmas tradition as those Frosty and Rudolph movies.
Thanks, emilygoddess, I really needed that. I’m out of things to keep me busy and the news has been a constant onslaught of awful lately.
Thanks, I needed that.
Women have to earn decent treatment by being angelic and perfect, whereas men deserve it automatically. Also ugh on that story about the guy who killed his son, not reading that on Xmas Day.
Kittens frolicking under a tree is much more seasonally appropriate.
I really want to know where (and most importantly when) people are being told that all women are perfect angels. I know there was the whole ‘angel in the house’ separate spheres idea in the late 19th century (explicitly a backlash to more women wanting to move out of the house and into higher education and the workplace) which got a boost again in the 1950s (again as an explicit counter movement to try to shove women back into the house after they’d spent the war as a vital part of the workforce) but other than that I must have missed it.
I took an anthropology course once where the professor (an emeritus the university was having a hard time getting out the door) seemed to take great pleasure in relating (to a class composed almost entirely of women) the results of his career’s work proving that women were just as likely to participate in acts of genocide and ethnic conflict as men. I remember being flabbergasted that he expected it to be news that women were, wait for it (and seriously, you are not going to believe this!!)… people!
There seem to be a lot of men tilting at that particular windmill.
I think they assume that everyone else shares the same “if a minority acts up, they don’t deserve rights” thought process, so when they wank on about female serial killers, child abusers, and other criminals, they expect everyone else to be like “well I guess they really don’t deserve equality!”. However most people seem to understand that women’s rights are the same as men’s rights, as in they can’t be taken away.
(I’m not against learning about female criminals btw, since it helps battle benevolent sexism, just when people argue that women are handed everything(read: basic respect as people) because people think women are superior).
Their table doesn’t have a leg to stand on! *badumtchsh*
I’ve seen some mutterings about how “the world would be more peaceful if women ran it”, etc, but I feel like it was more of a second wave thing, and I don’t think it was very common among feminists even then. I mean, it’s pretty gender essentialist and ciscentric. But somehow it got out into the mainstream, and people latched onto it because it “proves” that feminists are either female supremacists or just unrealistic (as if women could ever be better than men). If someone like Gilly’s professor can prove that women are just as bad as men, then we’ll have to accept that the status quo is just fine, or something. Or maybe he just liked proving that women are terrible, and would make an excellent MRA.
I occasionally see that, but it’s usually called out pretty fast as disguised misogyny, at least in the spaces that I hang out in. I think that’s actually a first wave argument. Like they argued women should vote too to “balance” men’s brutish, emotionless thinking with weak, empathetic thinking.
Yep, that’s classic First Wave. Even the people making that argument didn’t necessarily believe it, it was a political strategy designed to play on the prejudices of the time.
Brain bleach.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dXidW7fEH8g
Hi Howard, good to see you!
MOAR KITTIES, yay!
I pretty much arrived at my pro-feminism from the second wave. By reading Robin Morgan and Andrea Dworkwin I kinda discovered that I was very much pro-feminist. As to the this myth that the world would be more peaceful if women ran it, it kinda goes against that anarchist strain of the Second Wave. The world would be more peaceful if we all cooperated together, without trying to dominate. Domination was a theme that the Second Wave tried to address and it is domination that is still an issue.
And Happy Holidays everyone.
Hope everyone had a nice day, and/or a nice holiday if it’s something they celebrate. I’m waiting for my sister to deliver my holiday dinner of an egg salad sandwich on rye, since we’re still hanging out at the hospital and delis are one of the few things open. But tomorrow we’re getting a full xmas feast of turkey, mashed potatoes, gravy and stuffing delivered to us at the hospital so yay. We even decorated my mom’s room (but they made us take down the lights, buggrit)!
Today I just went on a hike with my older siblings and a cousin and got stoned. And then we went to a Denny’s because munchies. I did those things mostly because I wanted to escape my depressed mindset temporarily, but it was still a good day. Much better than I expected.