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Scary news from A Voice for Men. On their front page right now:
So Sweden is Nazi Germany?
This is a little confusing to me, because, according to what I’ve always considered the most trusted and reliable source of Swedish information, Sweden is actually Napoleonic France.
Unfortunately, my only other real source for information on Sweden is not much help either, as it seems to suggest that Sweden is … the Mojave desert?
Like this:
Posted on January 18, 2013, in a voice for men, antifeminism, crackpottery, drama kings, figurative nazis, grandiosity, MRA, playing the victim and tagged a voice for men, abba, antifeminism, men's rights, sweden, the cardigans. Bookmark the permalink. 139 Comments.
@Kim - that op=ed is from 2009.
CWS, Owly thought an American feminist wrote a scene from Chicago that he found on YouTube. Chloe something? It’s on my blog somewhere…
But guys, driversuz admits that she totally made up that weird erotic story about her son:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/women/an-anonymous-letter/
She apparently does have a son, he’s just not as cool as her imaginary son.
Hilarious. Disturbing. Like so much of feMRAdom.
Driversuz made it up - shocked, I’m shocked, I tell you (not really).
@Dvärghundspossen
“Actually, all the hype this play got disturbed me.
Firstly you have male journalists who write super-positive reviews about how they were supposed to sit in a particular men’s department in the theatre while women threw insults at them. Everyone seems to agree that this was a very interesting experience that made you understand what it’s like to be under-privileged….”
Reminds me of a segment from an early Brian De Palma movie called “Hi, Mom,” starring Robert De Niro. The segment’s called “Be Black, Baby” and has a group of Black radicals putting on a play for a WASP audience where they feed the audience soul food, dress them up in shoe polish, and hurl racial slurs and violence at them. Eventually a cop comes in and arrests the white audience in blackface. The audience finds the play a huge success, talking about how they finally know what it’s like to be Black while the performers look on, pretty sure that the audience didn’t learn anything at all.
Mr. Futrelle,
here’s a challenge:
If:
2 + 3 = 10
7 + 2 = 63
6 + 5 = 66
8 + 4 = 96
Then:
9 + 7 = ?
hope you can do better than these guys:
http://glpiggy.net/2013/01/19/toxically-shame-based-white-men/#comment-52912
2x + 3y = 10 ?
Give me a minute to find some paper, mmm, matrix math!
Stoner, You know we can just Google the answer, right? Do you have a point?
Your equations are invalid:
a) 2x + 3y = 10
b) 7x + 2y = 63
c) 6x + 5y = 66
d) 8x + 4y = 96
Divide them all by two:
a) 1x + 1.5y = 5
b) 3.5x + 1y = 31.5
c) 3x + 2.5y = 33
d) 4x + 2y = 48
Add a and c:
4x + 4y = 38
Divide that and d by two:
4x + 4y = 38 becomes 2x + 2y = 19
4x + 2y = 48 becomes 2x + 1y = 24
Subtract:
2x + 2y = 19
2x + 1y = 24
0x + 1y = -5 or rather y = -5
Calculate x using that:
6x + 5(-5) = 66
6x - 25 = 66
6x = 91
x = 15 1/8
Attempt to confirm that on a (or any other):
3(15.167) + 2(-5) = 10
45 3/8 - 10 =/= 10 it equals 35 3/8
So, just what were you going for there?
Cloudiah, I kind of figured it had to be representational, but use some variables then! Wtf he gave is one removed equal sign away from being a matrix!
It’s not really math, it’s just a puzzle. But since all of these puzzles are now on the internet, it’s a fairly stupid one. He could have changed it up some, created his own, but no, this is some lazy trolling.
Speaking of lazy, what am I still doing in my pajamas? It’s almost noon!
Stick some question marks in there, mark it as a logic puzzle, do something to make it not a matrix (I like matrices damnit!)
Yeah I get that, I enjoy breaking stupid math though — it isn’t meant as math, but it’s presented as math, and lack of clarity won’t get you anywhere
@Cloudiah, RE:DriverSuz
I don’t know why that bit of the admission made me laugh so much…
Oh, really…
@Argenti: it may not just be x and y, there could be other variables in there too. It’s too stupid to be a math puzzle:
only one number appears in more than one equation
there is no logic to explain how the numbers relate to each other algebraically.
MRAs: misunderstanding math as well as logic.
@cloudiah: reading her blurb at the end, it says she’s “married to a very patient man.” Guess she’s the only MRA of the two. /facepalm
@emittnervend: That’s funny! Haven’t seen that movie, but… there was a journalist who actually wrote negatively about the play; he wrote that a theatre group would never get away with doing a play about anti-semitism and place all the Jews in the audience in a special section. Me and Husband discussed that and agreed that it’s not analogous, because Jews aren’t a privileged group… to get a racial/ethnic analogy you gotta imagine an underprivileged group, like, say, black people, setting up a play where they put the white part of the audience in a special department and then throw anti-white racial slurs at them… but coming this far in our musings, we had to agree that we could totally see this happening, and people embracing it. White journalists writing rave-reviews about this wonderful new play that totally gives white people a fresh perspective at racism.
I decided to treat it as a matrix, which should have more columns if ore variables, except it’s apparently:
(2+3)*2=10
Etc, as in (#x + #y) * #x = solution
Except genius here neither marked it as a logic puzzle, nor realized it could be read other ways (I love matrices, I’d take just 2 3 10 really, but I’m weird ^.^ )
@Argenti, it’s one of those “I pulled this maths puzzle out of my arse and you’re all stupid if you can’t work it out.” There’s no talent in creating one of those. Gratz on working it out, though, I was looking at it as simultaneous equations….
Silly maths example:
a “+” b = a^2 + a*b
So 9 “+” 7 = 81 + 63 =144
And being able to solve that charming little puzzle proves what, precisely?
@titianblue: you win! I’m not sure what you win, but you win!!!!ELEVENTY!1!!!
Damn, ninja’d by Argenti.
Thanks, Kiwi Girl, I’ll take a magical pug to go, please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iVc-Z8yFYW8
@Dvärghundspossen
That has to be the stupidest argument against the play (the critic’s that is, not you and your husband’s). Like you said, it would have to be the antisemites that are in a special section in order for it to be analogous. Clearly the critic missed the whole point of the play in the first place, though I do agree with you about the inefficacy of putting men in a special section and hurling invectives at them, not least because they are there voluntarily.
Re: Driversuz
Did anyone actually understand the point of that article? Because that blurb just confused the shit out of me. “I’m here to defend this cardboard cutout of men because it can’t defend itself (probably because it’s made of cardboard)” :S I mean, it was ridiculous enough when we thought it was actually about her son.
I can do our troll one better:
If a tree falls in the forest, and then bounces back up as a joke, do the squirrels freak out?
(Due credit - I stole that from a greeting card)
Yeah, Shadow, except I’d add “I’m here to defend this cardboard cutout of men by attacking cardboard cutouts of women.” And what does it say that she doesn’t think her actual son is worthy of being written about?
What was the point of all that supposed maths bonehead posted? People who can do maths/logic puzzles tore it apart, those who can’t simply ignored it and said he was trying (unsuccessfully, evidently) a wanky little show-off again.
I think the answer is supposed to be “gross”… (nine squared plus nine sevens)
Not much of a challenge, seeing as the use of the plus operand was clearly not functioning as addition, so other guesses swiftly pointed to the answer. Would have been more interesting in a non-standard base, just to fuck with people’s heads (but all 10 normal digits were obviously in play also). Disappointingly simple, meh. What was this supposed to demonstrate, again?
Maths! It’s science!
Nah, that bonehead is a wannabe maths snob/wit. He fails on both counts.
More interesting than him, I just saw that the beautiful Jon Finch has passed over - did anyone see him as MacBeth in Polanski’s film, or as Henry IV in the BBC’s Shakespeare cycle? Vale to a fine actor.
titanblue — I cheated, I googled.
Xänte — I considered non-base 10, but with 10 there, it’d have to have been hex or something, and I kind of know hex (HTML color codes use it)
1 + 1 = 10 would’ve been fun though!
And 10 + 10 = 100, have fun with that, stoner’s boner. (Not that anyone cares about your boner btw)
@Argenti,that’s one’s too easy! I have a t-shirt that plays on that, and people ask me what it means.
@Kitteh: we were shown that MacBeth version in English at school. I seem to recall the witches were sexed up a bit….
I remember that version of Macbeth. It felt like watching a therapy session.
LOL I thought it almost made me need a therapy session.
We saw that version of MacBeth in high school, for English classes! Go figure.
I still can’t get my head round Martin Shaw, who played Banquo, being the same person who plays Inspector George Gently.
Martin Shaw seemed to take on characters that were the (logical) voice of reason in a wilderness of conservative beliefs: case in point, Insp. George Gently and Father Jacob (Apparitions). The script writing for those two shows annoys me because it makes Shaw’s characters to be the only sympathetic main ones.
I haven’t seen Apparitions but I didn’t find John Bacchus to be wholly unsympathetic. A walking casebook of 1960s prejudices most of the time, for sure, but he had his moments. The thing I found a little hard to believe was how ahead of his time Gently was on so many issues. He’s a very likable character and I like the series, don’t get me wrong, but it did seem a bit of a stretch on occasions.
I felt that George Gently as a concept was:
- Procedural police show, check.
- Set it in the 1960s so we can deal with lots of social issues, check.
- We need a main character who is usually on the wrong side of the social issues so they can be a foil - Bacchus (and clue the name)
- We need the main character to be the one who is on the right side of the social issues.
I could easily accept the main character to be on the right side of a few moral issues. But abortion, prostitution, domestic violence - too much, for a senior police officer, for the 60s.
Exactly. Gently does have a fair bit of Too Good To Be True about him.
It’s an interesting contrast to Judge John Deed. Deed was a much more flawed character, but I thought they really messed it up with his flaw being the constant inability to keep his pants zipped. It got incredibly boring, for one thing. The whole Whitehall-is-out-to-get-him-but-he-wins-at-the-last-minute business got very repetitive, too. It was a shame, because the series could have been a lot better.
On further reflection, the graphic above the title is quite artistic…
@ cloudiah
Lol’ed endlessly at that link!
“This piece is not about my son. In real life, he is a multi-faceted individual living his own life. In this article, “My Son” is a cardboard cutout of any ordinary, intelligent young man who is considering his future”
Can safely say attractive twenty year olds who have completed army training and deployment, are entering college to study engineering, surfs, rides a motorcycle and a mountain bike, maintains a classic car, has biceps to slober over and is (amazingly) liked and respected by everybody despite being disgusted at the standard of women available to him is not the ordinary young man. Pretty sure “multi faceted” is just code for not as hot, intelligent or impressive as i am pretending ordinary people are in this slightly disturbing essay.
Why couldn’t Stoner state his problem something like:
f(2,3) = 10
f(7,2) = 63
f(6,5) = 66
f(8,4) = 96
f(9,7) = ?
The puzzle would have been the same but we wouldn’t have to ignore what “+” means.
Re driversuz: Whenever a mothers starts going on and on about how awesome her son is, the rule is to take the square root of whatever she’s saying and divide it by three. With a feMRA, one should probably divide it by, like, a thousand.
What’s the bet the multifaceted individual leading his own life chooses to have nothing to do with his weird mother, partly because she has this creeptastic view of women and would be the world’s worst MiL?
We should lock stoner and Diogenes in a room together.
khantron — you win ALL THE MATH, my statistics mind forgot all about functions!
katz — and put it on pay-per-view, could fund manboobz indefinitely on that!
wow, this Diogenes fellow sounds interesting…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diogenes_of_Sinope
titianblue, good job. Are you related to Typhone Blue?
*dies laughing*
Just how stoned are you? We (rather clearly) meant Diogenes the Dull…I mean, the Cynic. He’s a more regular version of yourself, more or less. Claims to have invented algebra at 9 (or was it 10?) — you two together would be a laugh a minute!
“In real life, he is a multi-faceted individual living his own life.”
Really? You mean he does more with his life than just stereotype and hate women because they don’t meet his unrealistic expectations? WOW!!!!
“Sarcasm is my friend, so no, I’m not a bitter aging helicopter mom with Oedipal issues”
Well, sarcasm is my friend too, and it said that you ARE a bitter aging helicopter mom with Oedipal issues. It also said you are an asshole and in denial and you’re not invited to its birthday party this year.
Sorry, couldn’t resist…
Argenti,
I think you are mistaken, it was a Muslim mathematician in the 800′s who invented algebra, not a Greek philosopher…
How about this one stoner?
f(2,0) = 1
f(.5, 1) = i
f(6, 9) = -1
f(-10, 5.5) = -i
f(i, 2) = ?
Whoops second equation should be:
f(-.5,1) = i
Stoner, come back when less stoned. I, and everyone else here, am well aware that Diogenes the Dull (I mean Cynic) is full of shit.
Let me use little, easy to comprehend, words. Diogenes the Cynic is a commenter here, and he claims to have invented algebra. This is just one of his many absurd claims.
Please do continue to completely misunderstand, it’s hilarious.
Yutolia, are you my sister? Because that is something she would say, in a Daria voice.
I believe you are mistaken. Diogenes the Cynic lived in ancient Greece. He’s dead now.
Hey, he claims to be a cynic, though he’s clearly just dull! Or are you afraid I’ll summon him by mentioning him? Because yeah, no one wants to deal with that tedium.
Wait, you were attempting did style of dullness huh?
Call him Diarrhoea the Chronic and it’ll get the idea across.
Or remember that “cynic” comes from dog/doglike and recall that DtC is just yapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapyapping in the back yard.
I lived next to that dog at one point — I can scare cats growling at them, at shut up most dogs in seconds, that beast? He’d just try harder at his attempts to ruin the fence between us. Two years living next to him and he started every time I went out the back door.
Yeah, very much like our cynic. (Note, I do not make a habit out of growling at small furry things, but it helps when the cat is swatting my fish tanks)
I freaked our Thomas out once by doing the mmmrrrrOWowowow cat-about-to-have-a-fight noise at him. Not sure if he knew it was me or not!
We’ve had a few yappity little wretches like that. There’s one next door, which fortunately is inside most of the time and hence quiet, and one down the street, which is out of earshot in my place.
DtC definitely has Small Dog syndrome.
Is it time for a clue yet? I think so.
Khantron’s function looks like it might be:
f(a,b) = e^iπ(a+b)
If you find yourself living next door to an unfriendly dog, try bribery. It worked for me! My old landlord had a rottweiler/pit mix that guarded the back yard, and used to bark like crazy when I went anywhere near it, or even looked out the window facing it. So I started cooing at him from the kitchen window while throwing him dog treats. After a while he would happy-bark instead of want-to-kill-you bark, and when I met him out on the street he immediately rolled over for a belly rub.
Bribery - I recommend it.
Any advice for a friendly but mind bogglingly dumb dog? I’m sitting on the floor with the kitteh and will probably soon be pounced by my father’s big stupid mutt (he means well, but is nearly as big as me!)
I quite like being pounced on so never developed any strategies to prevent it, sorry! I grew up with a friend whose family kept wolfhounds, so I pretty much had to resign myself to the fact that giant dogs were going to jump all over me and occasionally knock me down.
Lol, I’m not really a fan of being pinned, though I guess it is best if it’s by a lick-me-to-death dog! And one handed cuz cat… Hi there attack cat >.<
That was hilarious, she just went from pet me! to I killz! in about 15 seconds. Maybe the dog really is the least of my worries!
To give a bit of perspective here, these are the dogs that I grew up around. My friend’s family had at least 4 of them at any one time.
Lol that dog!
It’s even got its own camo!
Fun fact: Diogenes the philosopher were called “cynic” because of his ascetic, super-simple life-style. People thought he lived “like a dog”. It was much later that the word “cynic” acquired its modern meaning. (Later followers of Diogenes claimed to adhere to his philosophy according to which material stuff didn’t matter - however, unlike Diogenes, they still HAD lots of material stuff, only they said it was unimportant, and poor people were therefore really no worse off than they were. Gradually, “cynic” started to mean something like “hypocrite” and eventually “not very nice person” and even later what we mean by it today.)
I finally bothered to read driversuz’ thing. First she says:
And then, in the same paragraph, she says:
But suz! Aren’t they entitled to half of my income, which is apparently equal to their own?
And then, a bit later, she says:
Well that should be easy, right? Since I’m earning the same salary as my husband would be?
It’s almost like you don’t actually believe women can earn as much money as men at all.