Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock: When rape victims get pregnant, “it is something that God intended to happen.”
Here’s Indiana Republican Senate candidate Richard Mourdock, who apparently has some sort of direct line to God, talking about abortion and rape at a debate earlier tonight:
I just struggled with it myself for a long time but I came to realize: Life is that gift from God that I think even if life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen.
Mourdock has now put out a statement trying to sort of retract what he said, and a spokeswoman for Romney, who has endorsed Mourdock, has distanced the presidential contender from Mourdock’s remarks. See Politico for more details.
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Posted on October 23, 2012, in abortion, misogyny, politics and tagged abortion, politics, richard mourdock. Bookmark the permalink. 168 Comments.
Any trolls, btw? I has a sad today and could use a verbal punching bag.
Troll alert on the GGW thread. Pell, probably.
I mean GWW.
Weeee, gww is so cray zeeee!! thnx cassandra!!
Kitteh’s: We are the products of our past. Those who built that narrative to explain a world ending catastrophe (dude grabs what he can of his animals onto a boat and manages to keep just far enough behind the traps of submerged trees, hills, buildings, to survive) are gonna tell a pretty fucked up tale if when they try to rationalise it.
Put him in a world where all the gods are angsty, abusive, ideas, and you’ll get one like that. Move forward, and make it a story in a mythos where the godhead has become all-powerful, and you have a recipe for built in cognitive dissonance.
All too true. Couldn’t get a better example of cognitive dissonance than a fundy of my acquaintance whose only retort to “God committed mass murder on several occasions” is “God is perfect.”
And I say that as someone who has plenty of beliefs that could fall under the cognitive dissonance umbrella! :/
This guy knows that women, you know, vote and stuff, right?
Captainbathrobe - yeah, but they’re working to fix that bug.
I can’t find it now, but someone said in this thread that Mary wouldn’t have free will if she didn’t have original sin… At least according to Saint Augustine, free will AFTER the fall merely means freedom to follow one’s desires, which are tainted by original sin. BEFORE the fall humanity had a deeper kind of free will. You could say, in contemporary philosophy speak, that humanity had some kind of libertarian free will before the fall but merely classic compatibilist free will afterwards.
According to that interpretation, Mary being free from original sin would mean she had MORE control over her decisions than any other human being.
The whole free will business is sort of problematic when you’ve got a God who’s ready to zap you for not doing things his way. It’s a perfect example (as CassandraSays pointed out upthread) of an abusive relationship.
And sticking the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden and saying “Don’t Touch” to a couple of beings with the moral development of toddlers? If God had had a stove, he’d have left a boiling pot with the handle sticking out where any two-year-old would grab it and get scalded, I swear. As a straight story, it’s either entrapment or incompetence, neither of which is appealing.
Hell, I just HAD a healthy, totally planned for baby and I do not believe that babies or fetuses or senators should be allowed to gestate in someone’s body without that person’s permission.
I mean, if rape babies are a gift from God, then I guess cancer, murder and insurance fraud are also gifts from the Lord? Do we expect God to foot the bill for maternity leave, prenatal care, and the $10000 plus labor and delivery bill? No? Then STFU.
Yay! You had your baby!
Is everything OK? Inquiring minds wish to know how you and child BabyHeart are doing
Congrats on the baby, dualityheart.
Yay! Congrats on the little one, Duality!
Glad it happened and everything’s fine, Dualityheart!
Congrats on your babeh!
BABY! Congrats, Duality!
To explain what Kiwigirl said, where Britiform English is spoken, a fannypack would be a tampon.
Congrats, Duality! Hope you and the wee one are doing well.
Yay Dualityheart!! Best wishes to you and your family!!
Yay baby!!! Congrats Duality!!
Congrats, Duality! Hope you and bub are doing fine!
Thank you all for the well wishes!
You know that false labor that I was sent gone for? Apparently that is real labor for me. So I went home until I absolutely could not stand it and was totally miserable and finally went back in around midnight on the 23rd.
Apparently, I had gone from 1.5 cm to 9 cm in only a couple hours and was so close to pushing that they didn’t even have time to put in an IV and had to draw blood while I was moaning through some large contractions. Then finally I was 10 cm and pushed for like 10 minutes and there she was! Full head of hair and totally awake and alert and on my tummy, rooting around adorably.
I did not plan for “natural” childbirth (my water actually never broke and the doctor had to do it once I was ready to push), but other than the crazy pain in feeling the baby come out (I only had like two stitches but owwww), I actually feel like I am recovering faster this time. I did not bleed as much this time and I basically feel like myself again.
But I still do not think that anyone should be forced to go through pregnancy or childbirth against their will.
Sorry for the TLDR;…….
Anyway…And what asshats like this always say is that every sperm is sacred and every woman raped pregnant should be forced to keep it but then they slash funding for maternity care, support big insurance companies who wont cover basic maternity costs, and fight against any sort of paid or supported maternity/paternity leave that would give people the resourses and time to care for their WANTED babies!
Sacred, my ass. The only thing that this guy finds sacred are the under the table donations he gets for his campaign from big business.
Congratulations on the tiny new human!
Yay for babies. More yay for planned babies.
doooods,melissa harris of msnbc throws down on this douche nozzle:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/27/melissa-harris-perry-deli_n_2030834.html?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009
I doubt her message will get through to him, because depriving women of choice is what he and his ilk are all about.
FTFY